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		<title>An experiment in heat transfer</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#160;&#160;After being apprised of an issue with heat transfer through PCB traces, being the stubborn idiot I am, I had to try and solve the problem. The issue is with a particular PCB that has a cutout section with a &#8230; <a href="http://smackaay.com/2009/08/09/an-experiment-in-heat-transfer/">Continue reading <span class="meta-nav">&#8594;</span></a>]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&nbsp;&nbsp;After being apprised of an issue with heat transfer through PCB traces, being the stubborn idiot I am, I had to try and solve the problem. The issue is with a particular PCB that has a cutout section with a thermistor placed in a partially isolated section within the enclosure, unfortunately the traces themselves are serving as a heat transfer conduit especially so since copper is a particularly good conductor of heat.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;After thinking about it for a while I came up with a couple of ideas like calibrating the calculated output to accommodate for the temperature discrepancy, however that probably wouldn&#8217;t work without a second thermistor closer to the heat source, accounting for the difference. Another idea I had was to use an infrared thermopile but they&#8217;re kind of large and expensive and would require a heat channel mounted above it to prevent measuring the temperature of the case.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;After thinking for a while about it, the simplest answer I could come up with would be a heatsink to mitigate the heat transferred to the thermistor. While it is theoretically impossible to totally remove all heat difference, I believe that a large portion of the heat transfer can be eliminated. So I wanted to see if heatsinks actually help equalize heat much at all so I devised a bit of a rough experiment.<br />
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<strong>The Experiment</strong><br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;I decided the quickest way to test this would be with materials I already had. I have a selection of thermistors so I used a glass axial thermistor.<br />
<center><div id="attachment_620" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><a href="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9543.JPG"><img src="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9543-400x300.jpg" alt="This is the thermistor board used in the experiment. the thermal leads aren&#039;t attached." title="The Basic Thermistor Board" width="400" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-620" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">This is the thermistor board used in the experiment. the thermal leads aren't attached.</p></div><br />
<div id="attachment_637" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 510px"><a href="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/therm-circ.jpg"><img src="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/therm-circ-500x235.jpg" alt="The circuit used for the test. Beautifully illustrated :)" title="Thermistor Circuit" width="500" height="235" class="size-medium wp-image-637" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The circuit used for the test. Beautifully illustrated</p></div></center><br />
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The thermistor used is a glass 10kOhm NTC Thermistor in series with a 1k resistor in order to detect current/divide voltage. With the setup above, the voltage detected from GND to the divider is 438mv. the temperature in my basement is pretty steady since the furnace isn&#8217;t running. So now I attach the leads.<br />
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<center><div id="attachment_621" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 235px"><a href="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9546.JPG"><img src="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9546-225x300.jpg" alt="This is the board with the two 22AWG leads attached." title="Board with Lead" width="225" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-621" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">This is the board with the two 22AWG leads attached.</p></div><br />
<div id="attachment_622" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 410px"><a href="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9548.JPG"><img src="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9548-400x300.jpg" alt="I also performed the test with the leads closer to the thermistor." title="Leads closer" width="400" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-622" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">I also performed the test with the leads closer to the thermistor.</p></div></center><br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;I used Teflon coated wire to prevent conduction between the two sides and used my soldering iron as a heat source since it&#8217;s temperature controlled. I let the heat soak up through the lines for 10 minutes to ensure that the heat stabilizes at the thermistor. I also performed a test with the soldering iron closer to the sensor.<br />
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<center><a href="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9550.JPG"><img src="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/DSCN9550-400x300.jpg" alt="DSCN9550" title="DSCN9550" width="400" height="300" class="aligncenter size-medium wp-image-623" /></a></center><br />
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Finally, I decided to place a heatsink on the line. I was going to solder aluminum shims to the leads in order to provide for heat sink. That turned out to be difficult at best, so I used coiled up copper wire and soldered it to the leads. I performed the same two tests with the position of the soldering iron. Anyways, here are the results of the test.<br />
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<th>Test Type</th>
<th>Voltage Recorded</th>
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<td>No leads, ambient</td>
<td>438mV</td>
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<td>With Leads, ambient</td>
<td>438mV</td>
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<td>Pressing thumb on thermistor ~33.1c</td>
<td>554mV</td>
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<td>Heat with long leads, No sink</td>
<td>496mV</td>
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<td>Heat with short leads, No sink</td>
<td>625mV</td>
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<td>Heat w/ long leads, w/ sink</td>
<td>476mV</td>
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<td>Heat w/ short leads, w/ sink</td>
<td>544mV</td>
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&nbsp;&nbsp;It should be said that this test is far from perfect and doesn&#8217;t prove anything quantitatively with any real degree of accuracy, however I wanted to see how effective even a rudimentary heat sink would be in a situation like this.  It should be noted that while thermistors are inherently non-linear, we have voltage drops of 43% and 34% with the short and long leads respectively. I simply thought it was an interesting experiment. I have a few ideas on how to sink the heat or account for it but I think the heatsink is the easiest plan.<br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;Here&#8217;s a beautifully rendered image of the idea to reduce thermal linkage between the PCB and the thermistor <img src='http://smackaay.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> .<br />
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<div id="attachment_636" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 383px"><a href="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/zig-drawing.jpg"><img src="http://smackaay.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/08/zig-drawing-373x300.jpg" alt="The thermal isolation idea. By placing a heatsink on the exposed traces one could mitigate the heat transferred to the thermistor." title="Zig Zag" width="373" height="300" class="size-medium wp-image-636" /></a><p class="wp-caption-text">The thermal isolation idea. By placing a heatsink on the exposed traces one could mitigate the heat transferred to the thermistor.</p></div><br />
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&nbsp;&nbsp;If there were a heatsink over the exposed traces and the traces made as long as possible, it should be possible to bring the traces fairly close to ambient. Like the experiment showed, even a rough heatsink was able to reduce the heat going to the thermistor by a substantial degree.<br />
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Feel free to comment.</p>
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